Universal Health Care? NO!
Universal Health Care may not be the answer to our problems. Other countries, Canada and Britain, being the most obvious, have not done well with universal health care.
Let’s look at what is wrong with the current solution.
* Pre-existing conditions can make health insurance unavailable or unaffordable.
* Forty-Five million people are not covered by a plan. (That number is not true, but we will use it for now.)
* People with health issues must pay more to get coverage.
*Preventive medicine is not practiced like it should be.
*Duplicated, inaccurate medical records are inefficiently handled because they are not electronic. Too many mistakes, excessive tests, and misdiagnosis are being made as a result of poor quality data.
* People view health care as a health coverage plan instead of a catastrophic insurance plan
* Third-party pay system. When you go to the hospital for an operation, you don’t check the bill you receive when you check out. Why? You don’t care. It’s not your money. An insurance company, a third-party, has paid the bill for you.
If I were the person in charge, here’s what I would suggest:
If you opt-in to an insurance plan within a prescribed period of time, then pre-existing conditions would not be considered. For example, when you turn twenty-one, you need to purchase your own health plan. We would use attained age to determine the premium quote. There is no question that older people use more health services than younger, healthier people.)
* We can argue about how many people are uninsured, but whatever that number is, everyone has to have coverage. A friend’s blog shows that the real number is closer to 11,260,150 only 3.75% of the population of the US, not the near 16% according to the political left.
* All children up to the age of twenty-one would be covered by plan that would cost about $20 per month per child. (Illegal aliens would be required to purchase their own insurance coverage at the same rates as citizens of the US.)
* H S A (health savings account type plans, also called high deductible health plans,) would be the only type of plans available. Catastrophic plans should address preventive medicine. The free annual physical examination would be provided. This extent and depth of the physical exam would be determined by the doctor. I would suggest that the HSA type plans have a deductible in the range of $3,000 for an individual and $6,000 for a family. Certainly, these can be different numbers, but they need to be high deductibles. After the deductible is met, the insurance company would cover 100% of the costs. All covered expenses go toward meeting the deductible ? including medications.
* If you compare what people want in their health plans to what they get with their auto insurance, you will see the difference. Your auto insurance doesn’t have, oil changes, tire changes, car washes and other related items. Auto insurance simply helps you pay for a catastrophic event – a car wreck. Health plans should be catastrophic in nature, but after the deductible is met, then the company would pay 100%.
* All people, whether they are dealing with health issues or not, will pay the same premium.
* All medical records would be required to be electronic. There would be a medical database that all doctors and hospitals would be able to access that contains your health conditions, health history, medications taken and other related medical data.
* Get rid of third-party payer system.
What will happen if the government plan is adopted?
“The new government health plan that many politicians support would compete with private plans. The government would set benefits, premiums, commissions and payment rates.
The Lewin Group estimates more than 118 million people would shift to the government plan almost overnight, resulting in more than 2 out of every 3 Americans in a government plan. The reason for this dramatic shift is that the government would continue to use Medicare payment rates, so premiums would likely be 30 percent less expensive than current plans.
With more Americans under a government plan, health care system costs would shift from the government program to private plans. As a result, private premiums would skyrocket, making private health insurance unaffordable for most. Clearly the more affordable government plan could have devastating effects on private individual and group insurance plans.” Blue Cross and Blue Shield of South Carolina.
If you wonder if this will happen to the United States, just consider how well the government runs the USPS. The United States Postal Service is not even close to being as efficient as FedEx, UPS or any of the private firms. They are continually raising the cost of sending letters and packages around the world.
Another government mistake: Medicare is said to be insolvent. Study Claims Medicare Debt Will Rise $32.4 Trillion
Social Security is in a crisis.
If you further wonder what is likely to happen if we choose universal health care, simply look at what is happening in Canada and Britain
We all have a critical stake in health care reform, and it is important that our voice is heard.
Here this nice Video about universal health care
The Insur-Animals bring to life the inane way the current health care system is run, exposing the obvious question — why do we to allow the current system of coverage to stay broken? … Insur-Animals universal health care connecticut healthcare4every1
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Is universal health care just a quicker way to pay hospitals for unpaid bills?Since the government is constantly bailing out hospitals loss of funds due to unpaid bills. Seems that universal health care would just get right to the point and get the hospital paid.
You never heard of hospital bailouts.
Google Hospital Bailouts.
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14 million jobs in the health insurance industry + Universal health care = *Flush!*
They'll handle it like they do Medicare — never pay or settle for 1/2 of what they owe. Doctors can't stand Medicare…b/c they don't get paid.
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As per quiz's response, Canada just received a multi-billion dollar bailout as hospitals are closing their doors now faster than they're being built.
UHC is great on paper — but when people don't exercise restraint (going for scrapes/bruises/small cuts etc.) and the government paying less than what it costs to treat patients, hospitals can't stay in business. It's happening in Europe as well — they just keep throwing more money at the system rather than taking a step back and realizing costs are only going to increase.
In addition, there is a huge concern that the government offered insurance will be treated like Medicare where the government gets special pricing/billing treatment, essentially undercutting the hospital expense. In order to compensate, the hospital is forced to shuffle that expense to someone willing to pay it — private industry — pushing up their premiums and eventually requiring them to close shop. When all is said and done, the only option will be Government provided health care and we'll be on the gravy train to bankruptcy. Medicare is 40 billion in debt and will be 20 trillion (with a T) in debt in approximately 50 years if we don't:
1. Raise taxes to pay for it (Medicare was included in Obama's Stimulus…won't be the last time)
2. Reduce User benefits – which they're openly talking about.
Some thought should go into finding other ways to reduce costs to the user…that includes slimming the billing departments and other bureaucracies portrayed in your answer.
"Single-payer" means that all covered medical expenses are paid from the same source (the government). "Universal" means that everybody is covered. They are not opposites, and a government-funded universal plan *is* a single-payer plan.
He cannot. The people who oppose are not going to be swayed bey pretty speeches. The people who oppose understand that the government would not manage this well. There is no Federal Program which can be cited as evidence to the contrary, but there are plenty that bear out the point against. The people who oppose this understand that the costs associated are much greater than the proponents suggest. The people who oppose understand that this will not benefit them, but instead will only benefit classes which do not share a large burden for taxes paid in this country. Most of all though people who oppose believe in personal responsibility and already provide for their families needs without government intervention. You cannot make a silk purse out of sows ear even if your name is Barack Obama.
Well the crux of Universal Healthcare is "prevention". Sort of like the concept behind a HMO – where you have a primary physician and would make a co-pay. I have to be upfront with you – I'm didn't know any state in the US was even considering an Universal Health Care System.
From what I understand from people from the UK and Australia, if you have a real problem – you put your name on a list. They get to you. I have heard of people not being able to get into certain "specialized" hospitals in the UK – apparently there is also some sort of insurance you can buy to ensure better or gives you more options of hospital. I would be worried if I had cancer or something serious – I don't think they would "let you die" but you are at the mercy of socialized medicine. I've read and heard of some scary stuff.
There are 2 main issues the supporters of Universal Health Care never address. The first is – quality. People from Canada are always coming to the states for quality doctors and hospitals (I believe the Canadian Government pays for a large percentage of the care but I'm not an expert about that). It really breaks down to economics – your a great doctor, with great skill – where are you going to do – the US to make money. Hence, we generally have the best doctors and for hospital to attract the best doctors – they get the best equipment – hence the best hospitals. So there is a snow ball effect bring the quality of the health care higher.
Second – this is very important – because of the cost involved in health care, only countries with "workable" populations can universal health care works. Countries like Finland, Sweden, Norway and Canada have finite populations. If you combine all 4 countries populations – I don't think it would be greater then New York State. The UK health system has major issues as does France because of the influx of immigrants. The cost to all of these countries for this health care system is enormous. The people of the UK are paying insane taxes – beside income taxes but taxes on food, fuel and anything else. England is paying $8.05 for a gallon of gas – think about that – that's just gas. In the UK, they will tax bacon higher then oats because they take in consideration the health risks.
The Nordic countries seem to be the model of "socialized medicine". You just can compare those places with the US. I would love for everyone to have access to good health care – I don't think you would find any American who doesn't want it. It's just that socialized medicine isn't the answer.
Updating Torte Law to control medical insurance costs would be the first step. While I hope no one I know (including myself) is victum of malpractice – if perhaps there were reasonable caps on law suits, cost for doctors go down. Then perhaps the government encouraging small business to offer employees basic health insurance – perhaps over better tax incentives or other tax breaks. For the record, I work for one of the larger Bank's in the United States and I have Blue Cross/Blue Shield of MN (I live in Florida) – it's the worst health insurance I've ever had (many people with children have left the company because of it's benifits).
My daughter lived in Montreal. She said that the health care there is bad. To get a doctor appt. you have a 2 month wait and if you go the the emergency room you might be there for 24 to 48 hours. However, she did say that if you walk in with CASH, you will be put ahead of everyone in either place. The doctors pocket the cash.
Because it will get people to live longer.
Lets face it, the US pays more for health care and even then, lofe expectancy is lower and infant mortality is higher than western European countries with universal healthcare.
Do not belive the lies about the UK's healthcare system. It has problems. But people live longer here, and babies that die in the USA would have had a better chance of life if born in the UK.
According to Obama, only the rich will pay for it.
If you want realistic a template, look at some of the tax rates of countries with socialized medicine. 60-90%. The fatter the inefficient government gets, the more bloated the tax burden for all
The plans that are proposed are not enough.
I live in the UK, and work in the NHS (our universal healthcare system). Our basic rate of tax is 20%, not 50%. Our system can be better, but do not believe the lies posted above my answer.
In western Europe, health outcomes of the healthcare systems are better than that of the USA. Look at under five death rates. If you get care in the USA, you get good treatment, but a healthcare system is about prevention as well as cure.
I hope you don’t intend to use our socialist police department or our socialist fire department or our socialist library.
Why is it OK to share the cost of these things and not something as important as health care. This has nothing to do with socialism and everything to do with corporate greed.
Accurate and informative. The only people who could possibly hate this video are people that like corporate insurance…cmon guys, shouldn’t our health be the bottom line of these companies? Cause right now, it isn’t, it’s all about profit.
Also, good touch with Denial Crocodile’s nipples.
The quality of work performed by physicians would decrease dramatically! Since the gov. would be deciding how much or little that the physicians are going to be paid it will probably end up being very— you guessed it— little! haha… since when is the gov. generous!! Therefore, since the physicians will be paid so little, there will be less people lined up to go to medical school. Why go through all that training if you're going to be paid a pittance?!! There will end up being dumber people getting into medical school… (because all the smart people will do something else that they can make money with). And then, you will be treated by a stupid doctor. And the standard of care will decrease dramatically!! if I were you I would be in favor of private doctors and hospitals. (i haven't even mentioned the long waiting lists for care)! hope this helps!
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Face it folks. Socialized medicine works better than our so-called system. Of course there are all types of socialized medicine and ours will have to be tailored to our unique US situation.
Running a socialized healthcare system isn’t for the faint of heart, so I can understand why Republican types would shy away from that. Hard work and dedication are not their strong points.
But for the rest of us Americans, when have we ever been afraid of taking on the hard and dirty jobs?
Thank the government for OHIP!
Lol! It’s so crappy it’s funny, so accurate it’s terrifying. I love the worst animal superheroes part!
Yup, keep writing the congressmen………They're covered so they're not worried about the rest of us. You might check with with the AMA and get their lobbiests working on the problem.
You are correct.
I think there are a couple of major reasons why it's getting such play in the US.
First, we have always been among the most compassionate people on the planet. This is proved by Arthur C Brooks, Who Really Cares?, book which documents how we, the people, give the most in foreign and domestic charity and always have of ANY nation on the planet. We are told we're greedy, selfish SOBs full of hate. That is from LIARS with no facts to support them. That many people do have health problems AND medical care IS expensive means that some of us don't get all the care we really should.
Which leads us to the next point, we're told (again it's a lie) that the problem with failure to deliver health care is everyone doesn't have insurance. Yet insurance is one of the greatest reasons health care costs so much because the insurance industry is corrupt.
Thus, with all the lies people are fed by the media, politicians, etc. people are thinking that UHC is "the answer" and again, lies are told, about how it "works" in other countries. Not true. Of course a compassionate people get confused and want to go off into the ditch.
Fact: UHC does not work. Canadian doc:
"…Another sign of transformation: Canadian doctors, long silent on the health-care system’s problems, are starting to speak up. Last August, they voted Brian Day president of their national association. A former socialist who counts Fidel Castro as a personal acquaintance, Day has nevertheless become perhaps the most vocal critic of Canadian public health care, having opened his own private surgery center as a remedy for long waiting lists and then challenged the government to shut him down. “This is a country in which dogs can get a hip replacement in under a week,†he fumed to the New York Times, “and in which humans can wait two to three years.â€
And now even Canadian governments are looking to the private sector to shrink the waiting lists. Day’s clinic, for instance, handles workers’-compensation cases for employees of both public and private corporations. In British Columbia, private clinics perform roughly 80 percent of government-funded diagnostic testing. In Ontario, where fealty to socialized medicine has always been strong, the government recently hired a private firm to staff a rural hospital’s emergency room.
This privatizing trend is reaching Europe, too. Britain’s government-run health care dates back to the 1940s. Yet the Labour Party—which originally created the National Health Service and used to bristle at the suggestion of private medicine, dismissing it as “Americanizationâ€â€”now openly favors privatization. Sir William Wells, a senior British health official, recently said: “The big trouble with a state monopoly is that it builds in massive inefficiencies and inward-looking culture.†Last year, the private sector provided about 5 percent of Britain’s nonemergency procedures; Labour aims to triple that percentage by 2008. The Labour government also works to voucherize certain surgeries, offering patients a choice of four providers, at least one private. And in a recent move, the government will contract out some primary care services, perhaps to American firms such as UnitedHealth Group and Kaiser Permanente.
Sweden’s government, after the completion of the latest round of privatizations, will be contracting out some 80 percent of Stockholm’s primary care and 40 percent of its total health services, including one of the city’s largest hospitals. Since the fall of Communism, Slovakia has looked to liberalize its state-run system, introducing co-payments and privatizations. And modest market reforms have begun in Germany: increasing co-pays, enhancing insurance competition, and turning state enterprises over to the private sector (within a decade, only a minority of German hospitals will remain under state control). It’s important to note that change in these countries is slow and gradual—market reforms remain controversial. But if the United States was once the exception for viewing a vibrant private sector in health care as essential, it is so no longer."
http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html
Fact: Hillarycare does not and cannot work. It's been implemented in Taxachusetts by Romney. "Massachusetts announced that spending on its health care plan would increase by $400 million in 2008, a cost expected to be borne largely by taxpayers."
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080129/ZNYT02/801290745
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That article also explains how lefitst CA tried and failed to implement UHC because it's too expensive.
Medicare is touted by the uninformed as "the" way to go:
In the US, Medicare is going bankrupt. In 1998, Medicare premiums were $43.80 and in 2008 will be $96.40–up 120%. "Medigap" insurance is common because of the 20% co-pay required for service. Medicare HMOs are common because they reduce that burden without an extra charge in many cases. HOWEVER, many procedures which used to have no or a low co-pay NOW cost the full 20% for the HMO Medicare patient. ALSO the prescription coverage they tended to offer has been REDUCED in many cases to conform to the insane "donut hole" coverage of the feds. Doctors are leaving Medicare because of the low and slow pay AND because the crazy government wants to "balance" their Ponzi scheme on the backs of doctors.
"That dark cloud lurking over the shoulder of every Massachusetts physician is Medicare. If Congress does not act, doctors' payments from Medicare will be cut by about 5 percent annually, beginning next year through 2012, creating a financial hailstorm that would wreak havoc with already strained practices.
Cumulatively, the proposed cuts represent a 31 percent reduction in Medicare reimbursement. If the cuts are adjusted for practice-cost inflation, the American Medical Association says Medicare payment rates to physicians in 2013 would be less than half of what they were in 1991."
http://www.massmed.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=vs_mar05_top&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&CONTENTID=11037
Already starting THIS January, Medicare and its HMO and other plans have been trying to weasel out of paying for things like physicals. Though it's in writing that it's a covered benefit, it's not always being paid for now. Interesting, don't you think? So much for the "great" program.
Now what is REALLY causing high medical costs? Government interference (idiotic programs like Medicare–it's a Ponzi scheme and need is not a factor and people are FORCED to take it even over a better for them private plan; interference in what "has" to be offered by insurers; can't buy policies for across state lines, etc.). Insurance industry CORRUPTION. They routinely ignore CONTRACT and ANTITRUST law, pushing prices up.
When 75% of the people who declare bankruptcy over medical bills ARE INSURED, then insurance is CLEARLY not the answer.
"Aldrich’s situation is "asinine" but increasingly common, said Dr. Deborah Thorne of Ohio University. Thorne, co-author of a widely quoted 2005 study that found medical bills contributed to nearly half of the 1.5 million personal bankruptcies filed in the U.S. each year, said that ratio has likely worsened since the data was gathered.
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Like Aldrich, Thorne said, three-quarters of the individuals in the study who declared bankruptcy because of health problems were insured. "
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20201807/
Linda Peeno, MD testified that SHE had often denied treatment JUST to save the insurance company money http://www.thenationalcoalition.org/DrPeenotestimony.html
Furthermore:
"the vast majority of health insurance policies are through for-profit stock companies. They are in the process of “shedding lives†as some term it when “undesirable†customers are lost through various means, including raising premiums and co-pays and decreasing benefits (Britt, “Health insurers getting bigger cut of medical dollars,†15 October 2004, investors.com). That same Investors Business Daily article from 2004 noted the example of Anthem, another insurance company. They said the top five executives (not just the CEO) received an average of an 817 percent increase in compensation between 2000 and 2003. The CEO, for example, had his compensation go from $2.5 million to $25 million during that time period. About $21 million of that was in stock payouts, the article noted.
A 2006 article, “U.S. Health Insurance: More Market Domination, More CEO Compensationâ€
(hcrenewal.blogspot.com) notes that in 56 percent of 294 metropolitan areas one insurer “controls more than half the business in health maintenance organization and preferred provider networks underwriting." In addition to having the most enrollees, they also are the biggest purchasers of health care and set the price and coverage terms. “’The results is double-digit premium increases from 2001 and 2004—peaking with a 13.9 percent jump in 2003—soaring well above inflation and wages increases.’" Where is all that money going? The article quotes a Wall Street Journal article looking at the compensation of the CEO of UnitedHealth Group. His salary and bonus is $8 million annually. He has benefits such as the use of a private jet. He has stock-option fortunes worth $1.6 billion."
–Save America, Save the World by Cassandra Nathan pp. 127-128
"Insurance Companies Robbing Patients
Robbing patients to pay CEOs leads to unprecedented medical insurance corporation greed.
Thursday, January 3, 2008 8:52 AM
By: Michael Arnold Glueck & Robert J. Cihak, The Medicine Men"
http://www.newsmax.com/medicine_men/medical_insurance/2008/01/03/61543
Health Care will be like now. The difference is this time it will be affordable to all. There will be a public plan and a private plan.
For people who can afford to choose a better private plan, that will be a choice.
As usual, there will be employer participation. The price of health care will go down when the layers of bureaucracy is cut down to size. The medical offices will have to deal with a single payer (the govt.) compared to dealing with many different health insurance providers and HMOs complicating their practices.
The benefits these HMOs provide are varied as there are as many kinds of orchids. Some HMOs are embroiled in scams and were indicted for defrauding the govt. …being run like mafia operations.
Get this socialist nanny state stuff of my internets.
Universal health care in America is being prevented because it is extremely expensive, and the quality of the care is MUCH less. If you are going to have surgery, or you have rare disorder your are going to want quality care right? With universal health care you will not get that quality of care, You will also have doctors that care less about there profession and you will have to wait forever to see a doctor because of the extreme boost in patients. Universal health care is being prevented because it is SOOO expensive and damaging. if we had universal health care every one would go to the doctor even it was not nesscary.
FOX – They are against it!
FACT – the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet.
FACT – the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage.
That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, France, Cuba, Germany, Japan etc, all of which have universal health coverage.
Because health care in the US is profit based while in Canada, France, Great Britain, etc., health care is based on taxes workers pay into the health care system.
Greed is stopping us from having universal health care in the US.
Health care is severely rationed in the USA as well. Except here it’s called “pre-existing condition” or “treatment not covered”.
Then of course there are the milions of Americans who receive no health care rations at all. We call them the “uninsured”.
A socialized medical system depends upon a shared sense of national purpose and a willingness for citizens to shoulder responsibility.
Some would even call this patriotism. Whatever you call it, the GOP types seem clueless as to what it is.
John Edwards is the only candidate with a true universal health care plan. I don't understand why people are so afraid of universal health care in this country. They say that they don't want our government to run health care, why is that worse than the insurance companies. They complain that they would have to pay more taxes, which is true, but the taxes would be much cheaper than health insurance costs!
So you wan’t the socialist nanny state to dictate what people can see on the internets?
It's great to see people like Michael Moore bringing to light a lot of things that we aren't aware of that affect us on a daily basis. But it all comes down to being informed – sometimes difficult with the internet as there is so much info out there. You may wish to check out the website below for more info in this regard. Phillip Day has some fascinating insights and a lot of interesting facts.
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It’s nice to see posters who pretend that the US’s health care system is the best and everyone else’s is socialist in nature. I’m sure our health care rating of 37th in the world is no problem for them. They love being surpassed by 36 other nations, some who are from the third world.
We are the only nation on Earth that doesn’t have some form of universal health insurance.
Lucky us!!
the was so guy! the bear was so coming on to all of them!
It IS SOCIALISM!!! and Socialism doesn't WORK!!! I believe equal access to medical care is a right. i.e. Hospitals, doctors, etc. should not discriminate against certain groups so long as they can pay and want to be treated. But, health care is not a fundamental right if u do not have insurance or cannot pay out of pocket. I know this sounds harsh, but, is it fair to health care providers to spend their life savings on college and medical school… sometimes up to 12 years of training… only to be told that the government is going to point a gun at their head and force them to treat anyone and everyone for free?! Or for whatever pittance the government decides to compensate them with.
How would the government pay to provide everyone with healthcare?? — with a Tax Increase of course. and with the way taxes are… the wealthy would– in the end– be paying for the healthcare of middle and low income individuals. Is this fair?? This is basically Robin Hood– are we constantly going to steal from the rich and give to the poor?? The more we do this, the more we become like the socialist and communist countries. Do we really want to end up like them?? The more the wealth is redistributed… the less incentive the wealthy have to work and provide jobs for everyone else… and the more the economy sinks. Seriously? What incentive would any of you have to work your tail off every day if you knew that the government was just going to take more than half of it and give it to someone who they deem is more deserving of it than you? Redistribution of wealth just brings everyone closer to being the same and that is communism. Quit beating up the wealthy for working hard and focus on yourself. America is the land of equal rights and opportunity (under the government and laws) not equal results. Every American should be responsible for themself and their family– not everyone elses. check out
http://freemarketcure.com
Oh, and btw… don't bring up all the religious guilt crap. I do believe that it is a christian's responsibility to take care of the poor and helpless. But that is only a religious view. And since everyone is constantly screaming that we need complete separation of church and state.. let's not bring religious guilt into it. That is an individuals personal decision to charitably donate or to provide for the needy. They can make that decision on their own or through their church. But the government should not force generosity and benevolence. That is a personal choice.
this vid is halarious
The poor don't pay much in the way of federal taxes (in fact more than 40 percent of the population pays no income taxes). From their standpoint, the benefit is that someone else is paying for something they want. Nice deal if you can get it.Not sure those on the paying end would see it quite that rosily.
I think you've got it wrong. For a country that currently spends about 16 percent of GDP on health care, and is projected to spend as much as 20 percent in coming decade, one of the goals of Universal Health Care is to CONTROL COSTS.
Yes, yes, we were sold on "managed care" and its promise to control costs, but that didn't work out so well, now did it?
That being said, no I don't think anyone could be able to make a fundamental change to our health care system — the health care industry will never allow it.
Very glad you liked it…and thanks for posting on your blog MBuchele!
Information won't do it. People don't see truth through information and logical reasoning. You can make them accept your truth, if you can create a convincing story or parable.
why? Are you against free expression on “your” internet by those who disagree with you?
Because affordable health care is OBVIOUSLY for commies.
It doesn't fail, almost every first world country has it setup as a system.
Unless of course you view treatment of the poorer people a failure.
The benefit to not treating a lot of people, is faster care for the wealthy.
If you don't want to have universal health care, the government can step in and price fix medical procedures like they do in japan. It works okay for them. They can afford adequate medical treatment because the government forces it to be affordable, and the same prices in rural as in urban areas.
The real problem with our system, coming from someone who has an entire family in medicine (Doctors, surgeons, nurses)…is the insurance companies. They buffer every side. The doctors, the hospital, the patients, everyone has to get insurance, and they are the ones forcing prices higher and higher.
This is the reality of how we (as parents) have to raise our kids. But the politicians with our tax dollars enjoy their insurance and deny us the right to be treated by catering to insurance lobbyist.
Csmallo: WHAT GOOD is cutting edge research, if treatments aren’t easily ACCESSIBLE?!?!?! As for having to wait in a socialized system, IT’S BETTER THAN NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE TREATMENT AT ALL!!! BTW, ever hear about having BOTH (socialized system w/the option of going to a private doctor whenever one wants to)?!
If congress passes HR 676 (universal single-payer health INSURANCE), all hospitals and doctors’ offices will remain private/non-profit and untouched and we will be able to see any of them we want. It will allow us ALL access to universal health care. All private insurance companies will have to go into supplemental policies. Which would be good for extra procedures people might want to have done.
universal health care means everyone in a country has health insurance (I believe this is the system in Germany). Socialized medicine is where the government owns and runs all the hospitals and pays all the Doctors
This is the same type of crap that is already on adult swim. Most of CN’s blocks are so stupid and boring you just fall asleep.
I haven’t been to a doctor in ten years. Too expensive. I am just kinda waiting for something terrible can happen so that you taxpayers can pay fifty times more than if you would just let me go to the fucking doctor. Thanks america. My stomach hurts.
It shows us that IT DOESN"T WORK!! People obviously don't like learning from the mistakes of others.
Answer my question, please?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjNJsqwIYOgD9LEHgjWChybsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20090318164840AAE91WD
Why do you talk about who does the cutting edge research in medicine? Like how private companies in the US pay for more research than all of the EU governments combined. Or how about how health care is rationed in these socialist care systems. Why no mention of how several health councils in the UK stopped providing some drugs and procedures to people? Or about how a test I can get done the same day in the US might take 8 months in Canada?
when is the next episode???